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now we're told assad has. many say this is a pretext for going in and going into some kind of advanced war with assad. >> yes. >> how do we know who to believe here? >> well, you start by not believing the people who lied to you before. the american government lied to its own people. honestly, i don't know of a worse lie one could tell other than a lie to take a country to war. to make up things to take people to war. that's got to be the most obscene, immoral thing to do. so this government hasn't earned the right to be trusted. if it says assad has chemical weapons or ahmadinejad has a nuclear weapon -- >> but it's not this government, is it, that went to war with saddam. >> which government? you're talking about obama versus bush? >> yes. >> i'm talking about the real government. wall street, the banks, people who made $2.2 trillion we spent on the iraq war. who made the money? soldiers in the field? i don't think so. this is always about the people who have the purse strings and the politicians bought by t
now we're told assad has. many say this is a pretext for going in and going into some kind of advanced war with assad. >> yes. >> how do we know who to believe here? >> well, you start by not believing the people who lied to you before. the american government lied to its own people. honestly, i don't know of a worse lie one could tell other than a lie to take a country to war. to make up things to take people to war. that's got to be the most obscene, immoral thing to do. so...
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ten years after we found chemical weapons in iraq, ba bassar al assad could possibly using the chemical weapons that we know he has right now. >> you're going to hear from one very brave and lucky young man tonight. >> plus congresswoman michelle bamman, she claims that president obama is wasting her money on his lavish lifestyle. where is she getting her facts? we tracked her down and asked her to see how she responded. basically, she wouldn't stop walking or running, almost. keeping them honest. we begin now with breaking news. news that just triggered military action by the united states in syria. the news tonight that the possibility that the regime in syria might be doing the one thing that could trigger american military action. might be using chemical weapons. crossing a redline that president obama himself lay down. now, they have used chemical weapons, that would leave the president with a major challenge as he heads tonight to israel. now, the suggestion that chemical weapons might have been used came a few hours ago today from mike rogers, saying there is a high probability t
ten years after we found chemical weapons in iraq, ba bassar al assad could possibly using the chemical weapons that we know he has right now. >> you're going to hear from one very brave and lucky young man tonight. >> plus congresswoman michelle bamman, she claims that president obama is wasting her money on his lavish lifestyle. where is she getting her facts? we tracked her down and asked her to see how she responded. basically, she wouldn't stop walking or running, almost....
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>> assad's regime must understand they will be held accountable for the use of chemical weapons or their transfer to terrorists. >> the president's one-time middle east peacemaking. is now the time to kiss and make up? >>> this is "piers morgan live". you've heard a lot of heated debate on this show on both sides. tonight i'm going to talk to five men who probably know more than most of us about guns and in particular the aftermath of the atrocity of newtown. they're police chiefs in and around newtown. all of them having experience and trauma of that terrible day at sandy hook elementary school. sadly, the toll of guns doesn't end there. tom clements was gunned down in the doorway of his home last night, hours before governor john hicken loafer signed new gun control legislation. >>> plus, something special tonight. we conduct an informal account of u.s. senators asking whether or not they would have supported dianne feinstein's proposed ban on assault weapons. the numbers are not official and in some cases the answer wasn't quite as simple as a yes or no but we will give you those resu
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i think assad must go, and i believe he will go. it is incorrect for you to say that we have done nothing. we have helped to mobilize isolation of the assad regime internationally. we have supported and recognized the opposition. we have provided hundreds of millions of dollars in support for humanitarian aid. we have worked diligently with other countries in the region to provide additional tools to move towards a political transition within syria. if your suggestion is that i have not acted unilaterally, inside syria, the response has been, or my response would be, that to the ex tept possible, i want to make sure we are working as an international commune it to deal with this problem. because i think it is a world problem. not simply a united states problem. or an israel problem. or a turkish problem. for it is a world problem. when tens of thousands of people are being slaughtered, including innocent women and children. and so we will continue to work in an international framework to try to bring about the kind of change that is
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was it the assad regime or the opposition? >> and this is a huge difference if it's chemical weapons. so where do we go from there? president obama that's the red line that can'ti be passed. red lines come and go with this administration and i think that's part of the problem. i think we have to come back to what the basic american interest is here and that makes sure that no chemical weapons get outside of syria into the hands of terrorists. what that may mean if they're now in fact in use, we are going to have to take some steps to destroy weapons in stock piles in arsenals in syria. what we need to protect against is that we don't end up destroying whatever is left of assad's command and control structure in a way that actually sti actual actually facilitates the opposition. and i think the risk of the weapons exiting syria is high enough that we will have to look at using force right now. not against-- not on one side or the other in the hostilities, but to destroy the chemical weapons. >> greta: ambassador, if you'll stan
was it the assad regime or the opposition? >> and this is a huge difference if it's chemical weapons. so where do we go from there? president obama that's the red line that can'ti be passed. red lines come and go with this administration and i think that's part of the problem. i think we have to come back to what the basic american interest is here and that makes sure that no chemical weapons get outside of syria into the hands of terrorists. what that may mean if they're now in fact in...
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what does putin get from continuing to support assad? one thing he might get a higher oil prices because there's a risk premium on oil. this is important for russia. >> absolutely. >> you know, the united states is going to be a big factor in russia's future because we increase the oil production and the predictions are predicting more than russia or saudi arabia in five or six years. that's a mortal threat to russia if it affects the price of oil. >> all right. and seth, what damage could be done with these chemical weapons? you know, if we're hearing and this rhetoric out of dianne feinstein, mike rogers is different. this is -- they're using them. what could they do? >> it's worth noting that the reporting out of syria right now is a little confusing. the syrian government accused the rebels of using poisons or chemical weapons so both sides are now accusing each other of doing it. if, in fact, the syrian government has used chemical weapons against its population, against syrian rebels, this is a serious red line. i think there are a
what does putin get from continuing to support assad? one thing he might get a higher oil prices because there's a risk premium on oil. this is important for russia. >> absolutely. >> you know, the united states is going to be a big factor in russia's future because we increase the oil production and the predictions are predicting more than russia or saudi arabia in five or six years. that's a mortal threat to russia if it affects the price of oil. >> all right. and seth, what...
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the rebels say the assad regime has used them. each side has incentive to accuse the other of using the weapons. how do you prove who actually used them? >> well, that's the whole b problem. the intelligence is awful on syria. we are not in touch with the groups that are fighting. we are in touch with the exiles, not the regime. beneath neither side can be blamed. but once the chemical weapons come out that's the beginning of chaos and there is no choice. put a blockade on the country. stop weapons from going in. don't let the artillery be deployed. you can check this from the air. you can counter it. anything to prevent, you know, especially saran from being used would put this in another realm. >> the rebels say they don't have the capability of using chemical weapons. do you buy that? >> i do. but what you really worry about is the assad regime loading chemical weapons onto a missile. we have seen them recently bomb inside lebanon. you can understand all of the neighbors are rightly concerned that the regime itself has the capa
the rebels say the assad regime has used them. each side has incentive to accuse the other of using the weapons. how do you prove who actually used them? >> well, that's the whole b problem. the intelligence is awful on syria. we are not in touch with the groups that are fighting. we are in touch with the exiles, not the regime. beneath neither side can be blamed. but once the chemical weapons come out that's the beginning of chaos and there is no choice. put a blockade on the country....
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i think that assad must go and i think he will go. it's incorrect for you to say that we have done nothing. we have helped to mobilize the isolation of the assad regime internationally. we have supported and recognized the opposition. we have provided hundreds of millions of dollars in support for humanitarian aid. we have worked diligently with other countries of the region to provide additional tools to move towards a political transition within syria. if your suggestion is that i have not acted unilaterally militarily inside of syria, well, you know, the response has been -- or my response would be that to the extent possible, i want to make sure that we're working as an international community to deal with this problem. because i think it's a world problem, not simply a united states problem or an israel problem or a turkish problem. it's a world problem when tens of thousands of people are being slaughtered, including innocent women and children. e will continue to work in an international framework to try to bring about the kind
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as far as assad and syria goes, i just think as americans now, whenever we're told anything, somebody comes on and says there's reports it may be this, it may be that, we have to have the most skeptical critical eye and ear to what we're being told. >> that's my problem with it. here we go again. we were told saddam had chemical weapons and was about to use them, and now we're told assad has, and many will say this is just a pretext for going in and going into some kind of advanced war with assad. how do we know who to believe here? >> well, you start by not believing the people who lied to you before. the american government lied to its own people. honestly, i don't know of a worse lie one could tell other than a lie to take a country to war, to make up things, to take people to war. that's got to be the most obscene, immoral thing to do, so -- so this government hasn't earned the right to be trusted. if it says assad has chemical weapons, or if it says ahmadinejad has a nuclear weapon -- >> but it's not this government, is it, that went to war with saddam? you have to differentiate.
as far as assad and syria goes, i just think as americans now, whenever we're told anything, somebody comes on and says there's reports it may be this, it may be that, we have to have the most skeptical critical eye and ear to what we're being told. >> that's my problem with it. here we go again. we were told saddam had chemical weapons and was about to use them, and now we're told assad has, and many will say this is just a pretext for going in and going into some kind of advanced war...
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nineteen months ago president obama said that president bashar al-assad's days are numbered. that is about 580 days ago. the president started saying that his days are numbered. the question is what will u.s. intervention be in places where we say we are going to go? >> do you see that being tied to directly what happened in iraq or fen/phen? i was moderating this panel and one of the things that came up is that if anyone was involved in washington dc, no one wanted them on their team. but afghanistan was acceptable. i thought that was interesting as an observation. a lot of people have had interesting experiences and they are veterans as well. i'm just wondering how those people are integrated into the decisions that are going to affect the country going forward. and whether or not that's been done in the right way. >> that is a great question. a 30,000 foot look at how we, as a country, how we look at war and intervention. when is it necessary for the u.s. to get involved. i think that iraq and afghanistan will definitely play a part in those decisions for years to come. yo
nineteen months ago president obama said that president bashar al-assad's days are numbered. that is about 580 days ago. the president started saying that his days are numbered. the question is what will u.s. intervention be in places where we say we are going to go? >> do you see that being tied to directly what happened in iraq or fen/phen? i was moderating this panel and one of the things that came up is that if anyone was involved in washington dc, no one wanted them on their team....
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they asked the united states to shoot down assad's warplanes. however nato is very clear they're not getting involved in this conflict in such a way. with the death toll at 70,000 according to what we know many are asking is the conflict in syria is only getting worse? steven starr, spent five years reporting from syria before the conflict began and up until the conflict really went full tilt. steven, you will notice in even our introduction there, we're relying on a lot of reports. we're relying on youtube videos. you this out in some of your work. what do you think every american should know about this conflict and what you saw? >> yeah. i think there is a very, very important art of missing out of news coming out of syria particularly in the english language news there are still a lot of people that support the regime and or there are a lot of people that do not support the revolution. we get a sense in the media, at least in english language media, 100% of the syrian population supports revolution. not the case. the reason the conflict has g
they asked the united states to shoot down assad's warplanes. however nato is very clear they're not getting involved in this conflict in such a way. with the death toll at 70,000 according to what we know many are asking is the conflict in syria is only getting worse? steven starr, spent five years reporting from syria before the conflict began and up until the conflict really went full tilt. steven, you will notice in even our introduction there, we're relying on a lot of reports. we're...
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he said set in 2011 that bashar al-assad must go. people in the region believe him and they have been asking about it. this has been dragging on for quite some time. when they say that they have drawn a red line, there needs to be clear consequences. devastating consequences should they use them. the white house says there will be consequences,. bill: president obama said this. we cannot have a situation where chemical or biological weapons are falling into the hands of the wrong people. >> we have been very clear to the bashar al-assad regime. bill: we have started to see a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized that would change the calculus. with regard to consequences, if this were to be proven, we have not heard what the consequences will be. >> yeah. i think that is absolutely key. the syrians and those supporting them need to understand that there will be consequences. it has a reputation for pulling back. even if the united states is not going to play a leading role, we are still supporting an arms em
he said set in 2011 that bashar al-assad must go. people in the region believe him and they have been asking about it. this has been dragging on for quite some time. when they say that they have drawn a red line, there needs to be clear consequences. devastating consequences should they use them. the white house says there will be consequences,. bill: president obama said this. we cannot have a situation where chemical or biological weapons are falling into the hands of the wrong people....
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they continue to call for assad to step down. >> i assume, kristen, prime minister netanyahu is going to press the president on syria as much as he will on the issue of iran, given developments today. >> reporter: absolutely. syria, iran, i think that president obama when he speaks to prime minister netanyahu will go there with the intent of making it very clear that the united states is committed to preventing iran from getting a nuclear weapon, to making sure that the violence in syria is contained. that will be one of his key messages i am told. of course, they will address the issue of the israeli/palestinian stalled peace process right now. the president, of course, wanted to have progress on that during his first term. he didn't, so we expect that to be a big topic of conversation as well. i can tell you that what is interesting, prime minister netanyahu has used a slightly more conciliatory tone in terms of talking about palestinians in recent days. talking about the fact that he is potentially open to compromise, so the white house is heartened by that, but they're also tampin
they continue to call for assad to step down. >> i assume, kristen, prime minister netanyahu is going to press the president on syria as much as he will on the issue of iran, given developments today. >> reporter: absolutely. syria, iran, i think that president obama when he speaks to prime minister netanyahu will go there with the intent of making it very clear that the united states is committed to preventing iran from getting a nuclear weapon, to making sure that the violence in...
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hezbollah is destroying lebanon and supporting the brutal massacre of the syrian people by president assad. fortunately, the nuclear capacity was destroyed. unfortunately, the arsenal of chemical weapons remain. we cannot -- those weapons to fall in the terrorist hands. it could lead to an epic tragedy. there was an attempt to bring spring to the arab world. it is an arab choice, it is an arab initiative. it may bring peace to the region, freedom to the people, economic growth to the upstates. if realized, it can lead to a better tomorrow. we pray it will become a reality. i believe the real division is between skeptics and those who believe in peace. your voice will encourage belief. you came to us with a clear message that no one should let skepticism win the day. a vision that says clearly that peace is not only a wish but a possibility. i fully support your call. there is no other way to make the future better. there's no better leader to make it possible. your visit is an historic step in that direction. we shall journey with you all the way. thank you. >> thank you so much. well, tha
hezbollah is destroying lebanon and supporting the brutal massacre of the syrian people by president assad. fortunately, the nuclear capacity was destroyed. unfortunately, the arsenal of chemical weapons remain. we cannot -- those weapons to fall in the terrorist hands. it could lead to an epic tragedy. there was an attempt to bring spring to the arab world. it is an arab choice, it is an arab initiative. it may bring peace to the region, freedom to the people, economic growth to the upstates....
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this video we just showed from the assad regime, shown on syrian state television. want to show it again. it's supposedly a victim suffering from a chemical weapons attack. no one shows any physical signs of injury, no convulsions, no vomiting. at least three experts on chemical weapons say that judging from what they see here, it doesn't seem like a chemical weapons attack. knowing what you know about these type of agents and their effect on humans, do you agree? >> you know, it's difficult to tell without examining the patients. and you need sophisticated equipment to do that. a lot of the symptoms you're seeing in these patients could be caused by insecticide, for instance. any organophosphate which sarin is, but the fact that so few people have died or if any have died tells me that this probably wasn't a sarin attack but we can't rule out some sort of diluted chemical had been used. >> the regime is saying it's the rebels using chemicals. if it was something like a diluted chemical, dispersal agent or something, would that be crossing the red line? >> sure. loo
this video we just showed from the assad regime, shown on syrian state television. want to show it again. it's supposedly a victim suffering from a chemical weapons attack. no one shows any physical signs of injury, no convulsions, no vomiting. at least three experts on chemical weapons say that judging from what they see here, it doesn't seem like a chemical weapons attack. knowing what you know about these type of agents and their effect on humans, do you agree? >> you know, it's...
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officials say assad's opponents do not have chemical weapons. evidence uncovered by "the washington post" suggests pope francis did not take enough quick and decisive action to protect children from predator priests when he was archbishop of buenos aires. the human rights group says he didn't meet with or apologize to abuse victims. but the group did say the new pontiff's resolve to protect children has strengthened as new cases of molestation have surfaced and that he eventually instructed bush ops to immediately report all of these allegations to police. there is no evidence that he played a direct role in covering up abuse cases. >>> the carnival cruise ship "triumph" won't be sailing any time soon. carnival has canceled ten scheduled cruises while repairs are made to the fire damaged ship. the triumph spent several days stranded in the gulf of mexico last month, passengers subjected to overflowing toilets and food shortages. the ship is expected to return to service in early june. >>> lindsay lohan can now had this picture to her collection
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the president was clear that if assad and those under his command made the mistake of using chemical weapons or failed to meet their obligations to secure them then there will be consequences and they will be held accountable. >> catherine: the top u.s. military commander in europe says nato is making plans for possible military involvement in syria. >> jacqueline: the big weather story is the rainfall. showers all weekend and see rainfall from petaluma and novado. towards the peninsula some later showers here as well and the bay bridge with most of the rainfall is well offshore the satellite and writer pinpointing that and it is all around us and getting ready to move into the bay area. the tail end of this system is impacting us. we have an evening of rainfall and a morning and afternoon of rainshowers. let us take a look at futurecast. this pattern is offshore. by 6:00 p.m.-7:00 p.m. with areas of moderate rainfall. antioch and towards the later evening hours. more rain fall haulage could impact your morning commute. >> catherine: more than 150,000 people came to saint peter's squ
the president was clear that if assad and those under his command made the mistake of using chemical weapons or failed to meet their obligations to secure them then there will be consequences and they will be held accountable. >> catherine: the top u.s. military commander in europe says nato is making plans for possible military involvement in syria. >> jacqueline: the big weather story is the rainfall. showers all weekend and see rainfall from petaluma and novado. towards the...
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king and his team about the big questions about chemical weapons and the king's assessment of how long assad can hang on. >> all right. on king, thanks. >>> there's a lot more happening tonight. randi kaye is here with the "360" bulletin. >>> authorities in virginia are not disclosing a motive in last night's deadly shooting at the marine corps base. officials say three marines are dead including the suspected gunman. he died of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. the incident is still under investigation. >>> police in georgia arresting a pair of teens in a shooting death of a 13 month old child. the suspects are 14 and 17 years old. they are being held on suspicion of first degree murder. the toddler's mother says the attackers approached her, demanding money. they first shot her in the leg before shooting the child as she begged to spare his life. >>> the faa is closing the control towers at 149 regional airports across the country. the move is meant to help the agency free up more than $630 million in forced government budget cuts. >>> and one of the biggest personalities in politi
king and his team about the big questions about chemical weapons and the king's assessment of how long assad can hang on. >> all right. on king, thanks. >>> there's a lot more happening tonight. randi kaye is here with the "360" bulletin. >>> authorities in virginia are not disclosing a motive in last night's deadly shooting at the marine corps base. officials say three marines are dead including the suspected gunman. he died of an apparent self-inflicted...
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assad's own father used them. 40,000 syrians killed in hama. saddam hussein didn't hesitate to use chemical weapons against his own people and the iranian people. we know there is pattern in the middle east. the question is whether or not it actually happened here. when president obama talks about the red line being crossed, use of chemical agents if in fact that is proven would be the red line and i would believe provoke u.s. military intervention. bill: doug, what do you think?. >> i couldn't agree with monica more. let's be clear. this is the interest of the united states and our only stable democratic ally in the region, israel. israelis said, two ministers said yesterday they have definitive evidence that chemical weapons have been used in aleppo. i think we need to prepare for the likelihood we will have to intervene militarily on the side of the coalition to end this. bill: senator feinstein two days ago said we need to be prepared for dark days and she was in a highly classified meeting along with mike rogers, the republican too on the
assad's own father used them. 40,000 syrians killed in hama. saddam hussein didn't hesitate to use chemical weapons against his own people and the iranian people. we know there is pattern in the middle east. the question is whether or not it actually happened here. when president obama talks about the red line being crossed, use of chemical agents if in fact that is proven would be the red line and i would believe provoke u.s. military intervention. bill: doug, what do you think?. >> i...
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you mentioned the aftermath of the assad regime. there's a lot of concern that the upheaval is creating extremism. how concerned are you that extremist could take over in syria and, perhaps worse than assad? i was hoping you could give us an insight on how you brokered the call to netanyahu. and you have offered asylum that he rejected and does that offer still stand? thank you. >> well, i'm very concerned about syria becoming a place for extremists. because extremists thrive in chaos. they thrive in failed states and in power vacuums. they don't have much to offer when it comes to building things but they are good about exploiting situations that, you know, are no longer functional. they fill that gap. that's why, i think it is so important for us to work with the international community to help accelerate a political transition had is viable so a syria a state continues to function, so the basic institutions can be rebuilt, they are not destroyed beyond recognition. that we are avoiding what inevitably becomes divisions because by
you mentioned the aftermath of the assad regime. there's a lot of concern that the upheaval is creating extremism. how concerned are you that extremist could take over in syria and, perhaps worse than assad? i was hoping you could give us an insight on how you brokered the call to netanyahu. and you have offered asylum that he rejected and does that offer still stand? thank you. >> well, i'm very concerned about syria becoming a place for extremists. because extremists thrive in chaos....
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heather: you know syrian president assad, he released some pictures, he released some video. i have, i believe we have some of that, that he says proves that rebel forces used chemical weapons on this attack. he alleges it happened on march 19th in aleppo. just from you viewing this video, taking a look at these pictures, can you yourself tell, i mean, you can't tell if chemical weapons were in fact used here but president assad says this is proof. >> well certainly doctors after a period of time would be able to determine that to be sure. whether we could get accurate information from assad's medical system i'm highly skeptical of it but you know there is some reservation here i think. if a assad was going to use chemical weapons you would think it would have some military value in the sense that damascus was under siege or aleppo was under siege and he was using those weapons as an act of desperation. also you can assume, heather, that our surveillance is watching those stockpiles. if in fact there are movements out of those stockpiles to tactical units which would be a ver
heather: you know syrian president assad, he released some pictures, he released some video. i have, i believe we have some of that, that he says proves that rebel forces used chemical weapons on this attack. he alleges it happened on march 19th in aleppo. just from you viewing this video, taking a look at these pictures, can you yourself tell, i mean, you can't tell if chemical weapons were in fact used here but president assad says this is proof. >> well certainly doctors after a period...
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of course the assad regime and assad state television said rebels used those weapons. what we're hearing from western intelligence officials, it was opposite, assad regime used some type of chemical weapons and killed somewhere between 15 and 26 people. conflicting reports. we heard 15. we also heard 26. there is a lot of differing information right now. but we have confirmed of course, there have been some type of chemical weapons being used in syria. now who used them on exactly which group is still very much unclear right now, bill. bill: conor, thank you. just one line crossing the associated press at the moment here. reuters was reporting on this a little bit earlier. we're sorting through this on our end. conor come back when you have more from jerusalem there. martha: our thanks to him. this is breaking news right now. we want to bring in ambassador john bolton to get his reaction to this. you heard what conor powell told us. what do you think, ambassador? >> i don't take anything the assad regime says at face value. when they claim the rebels used chemical weap
of course the assad regime and assad state television said rebels used those weapons. what we're hearing from western intelligence officials, it was opposite, assad regime used some type of chemical weapons and killed somewhere between 15 and 26 people. conflicting reports. we heard 15. we also heard 26. there is a lot of differing information right now. but we have confirmed of course, there have been some type of chemical weapons being used in syria. now who used them on exactly which group...
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because assad, when they try to do that, assad comes in with his air power and he literally crushes them. also the rebels do not have the logistics to be able to stay in an extend fight for very long. that means logistics and supplies. we're in a stalemate. if we want to change the stalemate i think two things have to happen. one, i believe the secretary of state is having these discussions now but i don't know it for a fact but i believe he is. that is to provide lethal aide to the rebels, anti-tank weapons and anti-aircraft weapons. i agree with senator levin and senator mccain who called for a no-fly zone to shut down assad he is air power. if that happens then the tables truly turn. for that to happen, that means that a direct intervention by the united states in a war. jamie: i'm curious just a yes or no, diplomacy, dead? >> diplomacy is pretty much dead in terms of the military solution to the war. in terms of influencing the outcome post assad regime, very much alive. jamie: we have to get there first i assume. general keane, always so interesting to speak with you. thanks so
because assad, when they try to do that, assad comes in with his air power and he literally crushes them. also the rebels do not have the logistics to be able to stay in an extend fight for very long. that means logistics and supplies. we're in a stalemate. if we want to change the stalemate i think two things have to happen. one, i believe the secretary of state is having these discussions now but i don't know it for a fact but i believe he is. that is to provide lethal aide to the rebels,...
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the colonel assad is reportedly in stable condition in turkey after an assassination attempt. he was one of the original founders of the free syrian army but has been somewhat marge alized in recent months. colonel assad has never been able to unite the many different groups fighting the syrian regime of the the attack on his life happened while he was touring a rebel area. there is the possibility that there is internal rebel politics at play though syrian rebels blame syria and the assad government for the attack. in another blow to the opposition, the leading opposition figure, katabi offered his resignation yesterday but it was rejected by rebel leaders. on facebook he said he was resigning due to restrictions on his work. the overall inner workings of the syrian opposition is really, really complicated. as actual fighters fighting in syria simply don't report to the syrian leadership and jenna, this really does remain a fragmented syrian opposition and two years into the civil war, it hasn't really improve many in the international community would like to see particularly
the colonel assad is reportedly in stable condition in turkey after an assassination attempt. he was one of the original founders of the free syrian army but has been somewhat marge alized in recent months. colonel assad has never been able to unite the many different groups fighting the syrian regime of the the attack on his life happened while he was touring a rebel area. there is the possibility that there is internal rebel politics at play though syrian rebels blame syria and the assad...
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anglo-french backed insurgents or whether it's being used by the assad government so there's already a prejudgment going on un inquiries have a very mixed bag over in terms of their reputation they've been good on gaza sometimes they've been appalling when it comes to nuclear negotiations or the i and other un agency in vienna so when it comes to w m d it's ten years on since the iraq war we know how previous u.n. weapons inspectors reports were sketchy but then on the other hand those same weapons inspectors years later said huge amounts of pressure were put on them and huge amounts of bugging as we know from wiki leaks put upon them so un reports always complicated to tell when the outcome of going to be is going to be let me pick up on what you said just now u.s. president barack obama again said today the government as he put it use of chemical weapons would be a red line but if it turns out the chemical attack if it did happen was carried out by the rebels then of course united states president obama and secretary kerry will say that president assad is not in control of the chem
anglo-french backed insurgents or whether it's being used by the assad government so there's already a prejudgment going on un inquiries have a very mixed bag over in terms of their reputation they've been good on gaza sometimes they've been appalling when it comes to nuclear negotiations or the i and other un agency in vienna so when it comes to w m d it's ten years on since the iraq war we know how previous u.n. weapons inspectors reports were sketchy but then on the other hand those same...
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take a listen. >> it's not a question of when assad leaves. or if assad leaves. it's a question of when. he will leigh power. not a question of if. >> i am confident that assad's days are numbers. i think he must go and i believe he will go. >> the last one was today. >> if you go to the first time that he made the caug august 18, 2011, 2200 people died at that point in syria. now we're in excess of 70,000. it's one of the reasons i believe this will be forever a black mark on the obama administration. basically done nothing. the question he got today at the press conference to suggest that the u.s. hasn't done anything. the president pushed back hard on that but he was unconvincing in the suggestion we have done much. if you look at the numbers, it suggests we haven't. on the question of the use of chemical weapons, i think the president has shifted the red line a little bit. the first time he talked about chemical weapons he said if they are used or moved. well, we know if they were moved in december. we know they have been moved after that. i talked to someone
take a listen. >> it's not a question of when assad leaves. or if assad leaves. it's a question of when. he will leigh power. not a question of if. >> i am confident that assad's days are numbers. i think he must go and i believe he will go. >> the last one was today. >> if you go to the first time that he made the caug august 18, 2011, 2200 people died at that point in syria. now we're in excess of 70,000. it's one of the reasons i believe this will be forever a black...
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right now, assad still dominates the syrian government. he knows that using chemical weapons is going to trigger american-- could trigger american intervention. he does not want to do it now. he does not want american intervention. but if he's driven out of damascus and up against the wall in the west of syria and looks like he's going to fail, he might very well use them, especially if he thinks it would trigger american involvement because america could be his last line of defense and last protection against something much worse. >> i haven't seen any hard evidence that they've been used. there have been some reports, and if they were used it seems to have been on an extremely small scale. but again, i think there's no hard evidence. might they be used? sure, desperate leaders might do desperate things if they felt there was no alternative. i don't think there's anything we can do to prevent their use, other than to threaten, as we have, if they were to be used it would cross a-- quote, unquote-- red line and have dire consequences. the
right now, assad still dominates the syrian government. he knows that using chemical weapons is going to trigger american-- could trigger american intervention. he does not want to do it now. he does not want american intervention. but if he's driven out of damascus and up against the wall in the west of syria and looks like he's going to fail, he might very well use them, especially if he thinks it would trigger american involvement because america could be his last line of defense and last...
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all of various groups fighting assad of syria. they want assad to go. they also potentially bring that violence across the border from syria into lebanon and most particularly into jordan. i think obama was trying to have a better relationship with king abdullah of jordan. unlike other parts of arab spring where they are willing to let kings fall but with abdullah he has to support him and give him the kind of assistance he needs especially to deal with the refugees. problem with refugees they rarely come alone. there will be fighters that want to bring the fight to jordan. >> arthel: that makes it so complicated. i was in istanbul, turkey and i was talking to a guy from syria. he was saying that want president obama to arm the rebels, opposition forces. britain and france are on board with the notion but how do you think president obama will move forward with respect to syria? of course, there is chemical weapons factor. >> we have green and white and now i think what he has done he put the red line. chemical weapons we're not going to let that happen.
all of various groups fighting assad of syria. they want assad to go. they also potentially bring that violence across the border from syria into lebanon and most particularly into jordan. i think obama was trying to have a better relationship with king abdullah of jordan. unlike other parts of arab spring where they are willing to let kings fall but with abdullah he has to support him and give him the kind of assistance he needs especially to deal with the refugees. problem with refugees they...
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pressure on assad and we had in 2008. assad himself is probably regret in the support for al qaeda in iraq, which is coming back to bite him. when it comes to iran, i was reading an article recently in preparation for a different speech about the negotiations, the president saying, the last offer we made was meeting with was met with a relatively positive response from iranians. we were feeling optimistic, but we have to give them time and space of keeping our options on the table. that article was from 2006. that tells you little bit about how this issue has or has not changed. this is the issue that feels the most similar to where it stood in 2008. there are more sanctions. iran's nuclear program has expanded as well. elsewhere, we have had arab uprising. even in 2008, our concerns about president mubarak and his ability to continue to rule egypt was high. that concern was high. at the time, we were trying to push for the development of political alternatives. also i would say for the gulf states, there were quite a few
pressure on assad and we had in 2008. assad himself is probably regret in the support for al qaeda in iraq, which is coming back to bite him. when it comes to iran, i was reading an article recently in preparation for a different speech about the negotiations, the president saying, the last offer we made was meeting with was met with a relatively positive response from iranians. we were feeling optimistic, but we have to give them time and space of keeping our options on the table. that article...
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assad is iran's guy. assad, if he goes is a blow to iran. weapons going into lebanon, when the second lob none war was over between ezhezbollah and israel, hezbollah would not be allowed to re-arm. hezbollah is two or three times as strong as they were. they have been re-arming from iran, through syria, into lebanon. so assad is a bad guy. he is iran's guy. he has a stake in this and so do we. we ought to exert. it i think it's very important, what secretary kerry is doing is a very, very good step. but we need to do norensure that the right rebels are the victors after assad falls, which he almost certainly will. >> shannon: congressmen, we thank you both for your time here on this sunday. we appreciate t. >> thank jew washington's reacting after the in the-controlled senate for the first time in four years passes a budget in the g.o.p.-controlled house. the two blueprints have major difference. is there any room for compromise? i asked tom coburn if he thought the two sides could work together. >> there won't be a budget that will coalesce
assad is iran's guy. assad, if he goes is a blow to iran. weapons going into lebanon, when the second lob none war was over between ezhezbollah and israel, hezbollah would not be allowed to re-arm. hezbollah is two or three times as strong as they were. they have been re-arming from iran, through syria, into lebanon. so assad is a bad guy. he is iran's guy. he has a stake in this and so do we. we ought to exert. it i think it's very important, what secretary kerry is doing is a very, very good...
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for president assad. on the other hand, you could say it is bolstering supporters. is that possible? >> the opposition -- some of the opposition accused assad of standing behind the opposition. in general, there is condemnation. even the united nations security council condemns the assassination. he was someone who spoke four languages -- english, arabic, turkish, kurdish. he traveled and was well regarded, and he always was very much into calling people for the unity of syria, for some kind of reconciliation. since the uprising in syria started, he was dedicated on where he stood. he was against armed rebellion. against themuch movement, and that is why he was very strongly criticized by many in the opposition in the past few years. >> thank you very much indeed. the president of cyprus will be heading to brussels to present international lenders with a new financial plan. finance ministers in the eurozone will meet sunday to consider his proposal. it follows a decision by parliament to pass several bill
for president assad. on the other hand, you could say it is bolstering supporters. is that possible? >> the opposition -- some of the opposition accused assad of standing behind the opposition. in general, there is condemnation. even the united nations security council condemns the assassination. he was someone who spoke four languages -- english, arabic, turkish, kurdish. he traveled and was well regarded, and he always was very much into calling people for the unity of syria, for some...
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at the same time that he was threatening bashar al-assad and a wrong? >> yes, but they are both provocative. they are both belligerent. they are destabilizing forces and have been for years. he understands that the israelis are reliable allies, valuable allies in many ways. they are in a difficult neighborhood. the israelis, two years ago obama called for it. it's going to be dicey. iran is still the world's leading sponsor of terrorism,. lou: thepresident use the expression game changer if it were to occur. was his visit to israel a game changer? >> i think it is a little too early to tell. what we don't know is what those two men said behind closed doors. we should have no illusions here. however warm and cozy it can be. lou: however cozy the relationship. however warm the reception. these gentlemen have istinctly different things when it comes around. >> i almost agree. not entirely. i don't think thee have different agendas. i think that everything that was said, what you heard is that obama and benjamin netanyahu were much closer together are not.
at the same time that he was threatening bashar al-assad and a wrong? >> yes, but they are both provocative. they are both belligerent. they are destabilizing forces and have been for years. he understands that the israelis are reliable allies, valuable allies in many ways. they are in a difficult neighborhood. the israelis, two years ago obama called for it. it's going to be dicey. iran is still the world's leading sponsor of terrorism,. lou: thepresident use the expression game changer...
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while calling for surgical airstrikes to help drive the bashar al-assad. the president repeated that any evidence of this weapon to use would be a game changer, as he put it. president obama defended his administration's reluctance to use mlitary force to quell the syrian civil war. >> when we are working with the syrians themselves, so this is not externally imposed, but rather something that is linked directly with the aspirations of the people inside of syria, it will work better. lou: the king has also said the same. inside jordan comment they are the they deliveredwith answer should bashar al-assad we powers. >> we need to institute a transition as quickly as possible. if the issue ever came up, all of us would have to put our heads together and figure out if that would help the balance quickly. lou: the senate in the midst of a vote. their eressions, not ours. a senate budget bill being passed for the first time in more than four years. the congressional budget act of 1974 was signed into law. we will be taking that up with the "a-team." angela mcglo
while calling for surgical airstrikes to help drive the bashar al-assad. the president repeated that any evidence of this weapon to use would be a game changer, as he put it. president obama defended his administration's reluctance to use mlitary force to quell the syrian civil war. >> when we are working with the syrians themselves, so this is not externally imposed, but rather something that is linked directly with the aspirations of the people inside of syria, it will work better. lou:...
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intelligence officials now believe the assad regime in syria did not use chemical weapons on its own people. despite claims by rebel forces that those weapons were used, officials tell cnn there are multiple indicators that they were not deployed. >>> president obama is on an out of state dinner in israel marking the close ties between the u.s. and israel. he was awarded the presidential medal of distinction, israel's highest civilian honor. >>> major change coming to chicago. 53 underutilized public schools will be closed. officials say the money saved will be used to install air conditioning in other school facilities, invested in libraries and used to buy ipads for students in grades 3 through 8. >>> a man in australia himself a new father says instinct kicked in when a mom in a supermarket screamed her baby wasn't breathing. although not trained in cpr, he came to the child's aid to clear her airway, listened to instructions from paramedics over the phone and saved the child's life. >> wow. >>> the $500 million question, who is behind the biggest art heist in history? the list of
intelligence officials now believe the assad regime in syria did not use chemical weapons on its own people. despite claims by rebel forces that those weapons were used, officials tell cnn there are multiple indicators that they were not deployed. >>> president obama is on an out of state dinner in israel marking the close ties between the u.s. and israel. he was awarded the presidential medal of distinction, israel's highest civilian honor. >>> major change coming to chicago....
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are looking into the allegations and white house press secretary jay carney issued a warning to the assad regime. >> we have no evidence to substantiate the charge that the opposition has used chemical weapons. we are deeply skeptical of a regime has lost all credibility and warn the regime against making these kind of charges as any kind of pretext or cover for its use of chemical weapons. >> neither side of the conflict has provided documentation that chemical agents have been used. senator lindsey graham spoke about the allegations telling foreign policy that quote this. we need to come up with a plan to secure these weapons sites either in conjunction with our partners or, if nothing else, by ourselves. if the choice is to send in troops to secure the weapons sites versus allowing chemical weapons to get in the hands of some of the most violent people in the world, i vote to cut this off before it becomes a problem. but following intelligence briefings, the chairs of both the house and senate intelligence committee said they believe president bashar al assad has crossed the so-called
are looking into the allegations and white house press secretary jay carney issued a warning to the assad regime. >> we have no evidence to substantiate the charge that the opposition has used chemical weapons. we are deeply skeptical of a regime has lost all credibility and warn the regime against making these kind of charges as any kind of pretext or cover for its use of chemical weapons. >> neither side of the conflict has provided documentation that chemical agents have been...
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assad seet not be how s that? >> i am making a huge distinction between helping councils of the liberated areas provide basic services, getting chlorine so public water can be not theback on, that is kind of humanitarian assistance provided to people in need in a government controlled areas. the programs we are talking $60ut, this is the million secretary carey kerry ed -- secretary announced. strengthen liberated areas and help knit and national liberation. transfers or is that done directly? >> we do that directly. that has nothing to do with the united nations request i would like to defend having the u.n. having a presence in damascus. they are not there to prop up the assad regime. they are toe there, people out to innocent wherever they can throughout the country. in syria, there is no only opposition on one side and regime on one side. they are trying to get it to these hard to reach areas and people everywhere. let me give you an example. years, there half have hardly been vaccination campaigns going onthe
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it is an opportunity for assad gone. iran would lose a key ally, when critical to its terrorist operations, including against israel. that is why iran and hezbollah are massively stepping up their support of the job -- assad regime. they provide fighters on the ground. much of this weaponry is close to iraq. that cannot continue without consequences. unfortunately, jihadists groups are gaining popularity. they have convinced too syrians that they are on their side. many others are preparing for the day after his fall. syrian extremists are translating their battle success into authority over society as a whole, influencing schools and mosques. most of those extremists are from outside syria. many have shared with us their concerns about the influx of these foreign fighters. there are concerns with these extremists. to avoid a hostile syria armed with chemical weapons, we need to help better organize and empower the syrian opposition. though syrians who began the revolt by chanting, peaceful, peaceful. we have let them do
it is an opportunity for assad gone. iran would lose a key ally, when critical to its terrorist operations, including against israel. that is why iran and hezbollah are massively stepping up their support of the job -- assad regime. they provide fighters on the ground. much of this weaponry is close to iraq. that cannot continue without consequences. unfortunately, jihadists groups are gaining popularity. they have convinced too syrians that they are on their side. many others are preparing for...
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they are blaming the assad regime. russia supports the government's claim. the united states says there is no evidence. >> i am not going to discuss intelligence, but it is important that is fighting in syria and to devise any regime becomes more desperate that the united states and international community make absolutely clear to assad that the use of chemical weapons would be totally unacceptable. >> totally unacceptable -- jay carney there. steve, it is a complicated picture. what do we know about what happened and what did not happen? >> it is cloudy. it is hard to make an assessment from here. people who know about these things -- there seems to be a consensus that we should at least be cautious about these claims. -look at the video of the victims, they do not seem to have the injuries that would be consistent with the chemical weapons attack. talking about smelling the chemical agent, you would have needed vast quantities of chlorine, which was used by insurgency in iraq. these experts do not believe -- certainly the rebels and possibly not the syrian
they are blaming the assad regime. russia supports the government's claim. the united states says there is no evidence. >> i am not going to discuss intelligence, but it is important that is fighting in syria and to devise any regime becomes more desperate that the united states and international community make absolutely clear to assad that the use of chemical weapons would be totally unacceptable. >> totally unacceptable -- jay carney there. steve, it is a complicated picture....
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the assad regime is no longer a conflict between assad and the opposition. it is a regional war by proxy. you have rapp and iraq and hezbollah supporting him. on the other hand you have turkey and qatar. not only a regional war by proxy. you have russia and the united states. i would argue that president barack obama has been reluctant to intervene directly by either providing arms to the opposition or sending american boots on the ground. what i like to see is a concerted effort on the part of the united states, leading the effort to really broker a political settlement, a diplomatic solution. there is no military solution in syria. syria is not libya. even though i would argue that the rebels will ultimately win there particular struggle in the long term, we don't know. one or two years. at the end of it, there will be no syria as we know it. there will be no state as we know it. and more important from my point of view, there will be the social fabric, the diversity would most likely be destroyed. not to mention the that i willover effects from syria into
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returning to iraq, the problem is iran, with maliki's concurrence, is arming the assad regime as fast as it can to counter this belated effort by the americans. >> rose: last word, dexter. >> well, i guess i'd phrase the answer in a negative way. i fear if we don't get involved more deeply in syria, then we are going to lose any leverage that we might have when assad falls. and he probably will fall at some point.ll and then what? the guys with the most guns are going to be the guys that get into power. and is that going to be the bad guys or is it going to be our friends? and so i think that's the danger at this point. that's the choice. >> rose: and is it relevant that people who used to say this about the balkans, if you do not do something, history will judge you badly? >> well i think we learned from iraq that maybe that's not the case. i think-- i think-- you know, if we're talking about lessons i here, that the lesson of iraq may have been how badly an intervention could go iraq taught us one lesson. but i think bosnia taught us another one. that's been a pretty successful inte
returning to iraq, the problem is iran, with maliki's concurrence, is arming the assad regime as fast as it can to counter this belated effort by the americans. >> rose: last word, dexter. >> well, i guess i'd phrase the answer in a negative way. i fear if we don't get involved more deeply in syria, then we are going to lose any leverage that we might have when assad falls. and he probably will fall at some point.ll and then what? the guys with the most guns are going to be the guys...